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	<title>Comments on: Newspapers demanding Google cache removal being zapped from index alltogether</title>
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		<title>By: John Koetsier</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2006/09/18/newspapers-demanding-google-cache-removal-being-zapped-from-index-alltogether/#comment-13595</link>
		<dc:creator>John Koetsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serves them right. How unbelievably clueless can you get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serves them right. How unbelievably clueless can you get?</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2006/09/18/newspapers-demanding-google-cache-removal-being-zapped-from-index-alltogether/#comment-13203</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About my own comment in the early morning: I swear the results were back, but at this moment, they 're gone again...
&lt;a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lalibre.be%2F&#038;btnG=Google+zoeken&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow"&gt;La Libre in Google.be&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesoir.be%2F&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow"&gt;Le Soir in Google.be&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About my own comment in the early morning: I swear the results were back, but at this moment, they &#8216;re gone again&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lalibre.be%2F&#038;btnG=Google+zoeken&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow">La Libre in Google.be</a><br />
<a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesoir.be%2F&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=" rel="nofollow">Le Soir in Google.be</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James:
that seems really unlikely...

It is perfectly possibly to have your site indexed but at the same time NOT have any links to cached pages in the result pages, see the explanation Google themselves give:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35306</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James:<br />
that seems really unlikely&#8230;</p>
<p>It is perfectly possibly to have your site indexed but at the same time NOT have any links to cached pages in the result pages, see the explanation Google themselves give:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35306" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35306</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Aguilar</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2006/09/18/newspapers-demanding-google-cache-removal-being-zapped-from-index-alltogether/#comment-13176</link>
		<dc:creator>James Aguilar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odds are, it's just infeasible for them to remove things *only* from the cache, so they had to remove them completely in order to avoid the penalty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odds are, it&#8217;s just infeasible for them to remove things *only* from the cache, so they had to remove them completely in order to avoid the penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: Sivutuloja &#187; Arkisto &#187; Le Soir pois Googlen indeksistä</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2006/09/18/newspapers-demanding-google-cache-removal-being-zapped-from-index-alltogether/#comment-13066</link>
		<dc:creator>Sivutuloja &#187; Arkisto &#187; Le Soir pois Googlen indeksistä</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lisää aiheesta ovat kirjoittaneet Blogoscoped, Inside Google ja Notes, links and Conversation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lisää aiheesta ovat kirjoittaneet Blogoscoped, Inside Google ja Notes, links and Conversation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2006/09/18/newspapers-demanding-google-cache-removal-being-zapped-from-index-alltogether/#comment-13001</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They're back again...
&lt;a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lalibre.be%2F&#038;btnG=Google+zoeken&#038;meta="&gt;La Libre in Google.be&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesoir.be%2F&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta="&gt;Le Soir in Google.be&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re back again&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lalibre.be%2F&#038;btnG=Google+zoeken&#038;meta=">La Libre in Google.be</a><br />
<a href="http://www.google.be/search?hl=en&#038;q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesoir.be%2F&#038;btnG=Search&#038;meta=">Le Soir in Google.be</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Forret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Forret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should have a really nice effect on their web traffic, and so their CIM-statistics, and so their banner advertising income. Shows them right ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should have a really nice effect on their web traffic, and so their CIM-statistics, and so their banner advertising income. Shows them right &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Belgium needs to grab a clue &#187; Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2006/09/18/newspapers-demanding-google-cache-removal-being-zapped-from-index-alltogether/#comment-12976</link>
		<dc:creator>Belgium needs to grab a clue &#187; Mathew Ingram: mathewingram.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with del.icio.us &#160; &#124; &#160; Email this entry  &#160; &#124; &#160; TrackBack URI &#160; &#124; &#160; Digg it &#160; &#124; &#160; Track with co.mments &#160; &#124; &#160; &#160; &#124; &#160; Cosmos      Click here forcopyright permissions!   Copyright 2006 Mathew Ingram [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with del.icio.us &nbsp; | &nbsp; Email this entry  &nbsp; | &nbsp; TrackBack URI &nbsp; | &nbsp; Digg it &nbsp; | &nbsp; Track with co.mments &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; Cosmos      Click here forcopyright permissions!   Copyright 2006 Mathew Ingram [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ruling might not have required the removal from Google web search, but the underlying principle is the same. Google was simply showing titles and descriptions of these pages in Google News and got sued for it. They do the exact same thing with Google Web Search. Rather than wait to be sued over that, removing the papers is a good defense -- plus, conveniently, probably a little revenge, as well. That's especially important given that when I look at a place like Le Soit, the robots.txt file isn't blocking Google from crawling. It's not blocking either web or news search crawling. So the way Le Soir (or the copyright group representing it) seems to approach getting out of search indexes is to file lawsuits, rather than making use of commonly accepted no indexing systems. Given that, sure -- wouldn't you drop them to avoid any future suits as well :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ruling might not have required the removal from Google web search, but the underlying principle is the same. Google was simply showing titles and descriptions of these pages in Google News and got sued for it. They do the exact same thing with Google Web Search. Rather than wait to be sued over that, removing the papers is a good defense &#8212; plus, conveniently, probably a little revenge, as well. That&#8217;s especially important given that when I look at a place like Le Soit, the robots.txt file isn&#8217;t blocking Google from crawling. It&#8217;s not blocking either web or news search crawling. So the way Le Soir (or the copyright group representing it) seems to approach getting out of search indexes is to file lawsuits, rather than making use of commonly accepted no indexing systems. Given that, sure &#8212; wouldn&#8217;t you drop them to avoid any future suits as well :)</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Ballsy Google Kicks Belgian Newspapers&#8217; Asses &#187; InsideGoogle &#187; part of the Blog News Channel</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Ballsy Google Kicks Belgian Newspapers&#8217; Asses &#187; InsideGoogle &#187; part of the Blog News Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 05:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sometimes Google just makes me jump up and pump my fist, yelling, &#8220;Yes! You show those motherf-ers!&#8221; This is definitely one of those times. Google responding to Belgian newspaper&#8217;s complaints about being included in Google News and the Google cache, as well as a court ruling that they remove those newspapers from their services, decided to show them who&#8217;s boss and banned the newspapers outright from Google Belgium&#8217;s search results. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sometimes Google just makes me jump up and pump my fist, yelling, &#8220;Yes! You show those motherf-ers!&#8221; This is definitely one of those times. Google responding to Belgian newspaper&#8217;s complaints about being included in Google News and the Google cache, as well as a court ruling that they remove those newspapers from their services, decided to show them who&#8217;s boss and banned the newspapers outright from Google Belgium&#8217;s search results. [...]</p>
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