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	<title>Comments on: Master of your mailbox: an email alias for every site you leave your address</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2007/10/09/master-of-your-mailbox-an-email-alias-for-every-site-you-leave-your-address/#comment-192578</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pascal,

This is exactly how I have been running my mailbox, and it works really well.  However recently I have changed from IMAP or POP based email to having a Hosted Exchange solution.  

It seems that the advice above used to be industry standard advice when email was something that could be trusted.  However now as most email is unwanted spam, the industry are stopping catch-all addresses, especially on Hosted Exchange services.  

I'm getting to the point where I am having to redesign my mailbox, so that I have an "untrusted" box, and then create aliases for new trusted boxes.  So that I can then dump any alias which starts spamming me.

It's a bit of a pain though, as the aliases have to be created in advance before the address will work!  Especially as I use to just sign up on a site and create a random email address!

Best Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascal,</p>
<p>This is exactly how I have been running my mailbox, and it works really well.  However recently I have changed from IMAP or POP based email to having a Hosted Exchange solution.  </p>
<p>It seems that the advice above used to be industry standard advice when email was something that could be trusted.  However now as most email is unwanted spam, the industry are stopping catch-all addresses, especially on Hosted Exchange services.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting to the point where I am having to redesign my mailbox, so that I have an &#8220;untrusted&#8221; box, and then create aliases for new trusted boxes.  So that I can then dump any alias which starts spamming me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of a pain though, as the aliases have to be created in advance before the address will work!  Especially as I use to just sign up on a site and create a random email address!</p>
<p>Best Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Benjamin, I'm referring to the email server that receives the email. It is up to that server to deice what to do with a BCCed recipient email address. I have no idea how various web mail providers handle the problem. 

It's also possible that any intermediate mail server (a mail service like a forwarder) might strip out any headers, although they still have to keep the ultimate recipient in mind since they are forwarding the mail. 

Figuring out who is selling my email address is a huge reason why I run my own mail server. It allows me to ensure that the original address email was sent to will be in the headers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Benjamin, I&#8217;m referring to the email server that receives the email. It is up to that server to deice what to do with a BCCed recipient email address. I have no idea how various web mail providers handle the problem. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also possible that any intermediate mail server (a mail service like a forwarder) might strip out any headers, although they still have to keep the ultimate recipient in mind since they are forwarding the mail. </p>
<p>Figuring out who is selling my email address is a huge reason why I run my own mail server. It allows me to ensure that the original address email was sent to will be in the headers.</p>
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		<title>By: benjamin deauxver</title>
		<link>http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2007/10/09/master-of-your-mailbox-an-email-alias-for-every-site-you-leave-your-address/#comment-192306</link>
		<dc:creator>benjamin deauxver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the "mail server" you referred to the one used by the person sending mail, or the one used by the person receiving the mail?  My Comcast mailbox has presented mails that both have, and don't have, the information on the BCC receipient (obviously, only my own recipent information shows up!).  So has, I beleive, my "webmail.us" mailbox shown both types of info.  

If this is dependent on the sender's mail server, then that means it is indeed possible for spammers to flood your mailbox with all kinds of crap and that you might have absolutely no idea which of your 100s of email aliases is colleting all the garbage?!?  Just speculating, but I continue to be disturbed by this issue.  ~Benjamin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the &#8220;mail server&#8221; you referred to the one used by the person sending mail, or the one used by the person receiving the mail?  My Comcast mailbox has presented mails that both have, and don&#8217;t have, the information on the BCC receipient (obviously, only my own recipent information shows up!).  So has, I beleive, my &#8220;webmail.us&#8221; mailbox shown both types of info.  </p>
<p>If this is dependent on the sender&#8217;s mail server, then that means it is indeed possible for spammers to flood your mailbox with all kinds of crap and that you might have absolutely no idea which of your 100s of email aliases is colleting all the garbage?!?  Just speculating, but I continue to be disturbed by this issue.  ~Benjamin</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, found just now &lt;a href="http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2007/10/09/master-of-your-mailbox-an-email-alias-for-every-site-you-leave-your-address/#comment-192300" rel="nofollow"&gt;Michael's (moderated) comment&lt;/a&gt;...  maybe that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, found just now <a href="http://pascal.vanhecke.info/2007/10/09/master-of-your-mailbox-an-email-alias-for-every-site-you-leave-your-address/#comment-192300" rel="nofollow">Michael&#8217;s (moderated) comment</a>&#8230;  maybe that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK strange... (I mentioned the "For" header and not the "To" header but I guess you meant the "For" as well...)
In that case I do not have an explanation either...
Maybe other people who land here via Google can help you out ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK strange&#8230; (I mentioned the &#8220;For&#8221; header and not the &#8220;To&#8221; header but I guess you meant the &#8220;For&#8221; as well&#8230;)<br />
In that case I do not have an explanation either&#8230;<br />
Maybe other people who land here via Google can help you out ?</p>
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		<title>By: benjamin deauxver</title>
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		<dc:creator>benjamin deauxver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried just now sending a mail from my employer's mailbox to my home mailbox at comcast, than I logged into webmail and checked the header.  

I had used only a BCC address with an alias that redirects to the comcast mailbox via a 3rd party email host that I also have (a different domain name than comcast) and the alias information was plainly visible.  Thus it seems to invalidate the theory that comcast is stripping the To: headers.  My third party email host is "webmail.us", I haven't done the experiment with them yet today....

Occassionally I get email from spammers that has nothing in the TO: box, and I suspect all the recipients are in the BCC box.  But the header yeilds absolutely no information about the alias that was used to reach me.  

Another group mailing list (from my wife's church) comes to my mailbox every few weeks and the sender told me she uses BCC to send, and the same thing happens.  I cannot tell what alias she is using to send them to me.  

I, too, have been using the "invent-an-email-address-on-the-fly" method for a couple of years now, and this worries me that I can receive an email and have no idea what address is the culprit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried just now sending a mail from my employer&#8217;s mailbox to my home mailbox at comcast, than I logged into webmail and checked the header.  </p>
<p>I had used only a BCC address with an alias that redirects to the comcast mailbox via a 3rd party email host that I also have (a different domain name than comcast) and the alias information was plainly visible.  Thus it seems to invalidate the theory that comcast is stripping the To: headers.  My third party email host is &#8220;webmail.us&#8221;, I haven&#8217;t done the experiment with them yet today&#8230;.</p>
<p>Occassionally I get email from spammers that has nothing in the TO: box, and I suspect all the recipients are in the BCC box.  But the header yeilds absolutely no information about the alias that was used to reach me.  </p>
<p>Another group mailing list (from my wife&#8217;s church) comes to my mailbox every few weeks and the sender told me she uses BCC to send, and the same thing happens.  I cannot tell what alias she is using to send them to me.  </p>
<p>I, too, have been using the &#8220;invent-an-email-address-on-the-fly&#8221; method for a couple of years now, and this worries me that I can receive an email and have no idea what address is the culprit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Benjamin,

it is possible that your mail provider (Comcast) strips the "for:" header before dropping the mail in your mailbox (I have no clue either why some mail servers do that).  Maybe you could do the comparison with another mailbox you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Benjamin,</p>
<p>it is possible that your mail provider (Comcast) strips the &#8220;for:&#8221; header before dropping the mail in your mailbox (I have no clue either why some mail servers do that).  Maybe you could do the comparison with another mailbox you have?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin: It depends on how your mail server handles BCC. If it is running Postfix, there should be a header called "X-Original To"  that will show what the address was. If you are running Sendmail, it won't show you the address. Other mail servers may or may not embed the original recipient address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin: It depends on how your mail server handles BCC. If it is running Postfix, there should be a header called &#8220;X-Original To&#8221;  that will show what the address was. If you are running Sendmail, it won&#8217;t show you the address. Other mail servers may or may not embed the original recipient address.</p>
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		<title>By: benjamin deauxver</title>
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		<dc:creator>benjamin deauxver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried but am unable to deduce information on what alias was used to reach me when someone BCCs me with one of my aliases.  I look at the headers from Outlook 2003, and from comcast webmail (they are identical headers) and can never find my own email or alias.  It troubles me, and I've found nobody else to confirm this behavior.  Can you help me out?  I could send you an example if it interests you.  (a header example)  ~Benjamin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried but am unable to deduce information on what alias was used to reach me when someone BCCs me with one of my aliases.  I look at the headers from Outlook 2003, and from comcast webmail (they are identical headers) and can never find my own email or alias.  It troubles me, and I&#8217;ve found nobody else to confirm this behavior.  Can you help me out?  I could send you an example if it interests you.  (a header example)  ~Benjamin</p>
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		<title>By: Stockel1949</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stockel1949</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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